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The World Cup Controversy thread (renamed)

Postby Chuft-Captain » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:31 am

NZ 1 Italy 1 :mrgreen:
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Chuft-Captain » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:09 am

I'm sure that Fenerit would have had something to say on this thread by now (but unfortunately the forum lately has been falling over almost as easily as an Italian footballer). :wink:
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Fenerit » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:15 pm

The forum's downfalls have permits a long and more radical meditation about such score, like you was able to see a tad later... And surely the penalty was a bit robbed... Once returned, the team will be welcomed at the sound of the buh-buh zelas.
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby TERRIER » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:09 pm

Fenerit wrote:The forum's downfalls have permits a long and more radical meditation about such score, like you was able to see a tad later... And surely the penalty was a bit robbed... Once returned, the team will be welcomed at the sound of the buh-buh zelas.


Ah-ha the forum has returned from it's own upset it seems! and the main victims of the World Cup Upset this time around appears to be Italy who along with fellow finalists from 2006 France( not quite such a shock) have fallen at the first hurdle in 2010. Maybe they both will be returning to the sound of the buh-buh zela, but I think it will be mixed in with the loud thudding of soft fruits and vegetables.

You could also argue that England's win over Slovenia was a bit of an upset, considering the way they played against Algeria, but it's onwards now to play against Germany in the next round - I hope Engalnd will not be paying the penalty for not winning their group (curses to Landon Donovan and his injury time winner :P ) anyway.....

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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby chris » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:23 pm

I think the South Americans on the forum should be gloating here... Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, Argentina, and Chile are all in the Round of 16.

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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Fenerit » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:31 pm

chris wrote:I think the South Americans on the forum should be gloating here... Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, Argentina, and Chile are all in the Round of 16.

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Indeed. And all plays in the southern emisphere...

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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby t00fri » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:49 pm

Someone told me that Germany will win against England on Sunday. Is this correct? ;-)
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby TERRIER » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:00 pm

t00fri wrote:Someone told me that Germany will win against England on Sunday. Is this correct? ;-)


You must have been speaking to Franz Beckenbauer :lol: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8757944.stm

While the South Americans have all played well, it's been a different story for the dissapointing European teams. Of the 13 that qualified I think that only the Dutch have played consistently well, and 7 have been ko'd at the group stages. Due to the match-ups in the Rd of 16, only 3 will make it through to the QF's.

Fenerit wrote:Terrier, just to meet an incipient nightmare, mind that the England's coach is an italian... :P


That is not a problem for me - he has done a good job until these finals. I did get caught up in the nations mood after the Algeria game, calling for the head of Capello, but now that we have got through to the next round he is Fab again. :mrgreen:
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby t00fri » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:27 pm

TERRIER wrote:
t00fri wrote:Someone told me that Germany will win against England on Sunday. Is this correct? ;-)


You must have been speaking to Franz Beckenbauer :lol: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8757944.stm

While the South Americans have all played well,

You can't mean that Brazil or Chile played well today ...

it's been a different story for the dissapointing European teams. Of the 13 that qualified I think that only the Dutch have played consistently well, and 7 have been ko'd at the group stages. Due to the match-ups in the Rd of 16, only 3 will make it through to the QF's.


Consistent well playing is of NO importance, really. In the past, the winning teams (including Germany) rarely did.

So far, Germany won 5 goals and took only 1 in 3 games played. It's not THAT bad...

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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Reiko » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:17 pm

Japan humiliated Denmark at 3-1. :D

t00fri wrote:Someone told me that Germany will win against England on Sunday. Is this correct? ;-)
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby TERRIER » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:40 am

t00fri wrote:You can't mean that Brazil or Chile played well today ...


I think the Brazil v Portugal, and Spain v Chile games were very 'cosy' results which suited all 4 teams concerned to progresss to the next round. They were so cosy infact that I have become slightly richer :-)
Chile have impressed me in all 3 of their games, and were doing well yesterday until a goalkeeping blunder knocked them off their stride (this also happened to another team I can think of.) The big problem they have had so far is missing too many decent chances in front of goal.

t00fri wrote:Consistent well playing is of NO importance, really. In the past, the winning teams (including Germany) rarely did.


True, Italy usually prove this rule :mrgreen:

t00fri wrote:So far, Germany won 5 goals and took only 1 in 3 games played. It's not THAT bad...


Germany played very well in their first game, but I don't think they've been so convincing since then. It has to be said that they were the brightest ray of hope for an entertaining World Cup after the dull, safety-first football played in many of the first set of group matches. Luckily since then, most of the games have become more enjoyable - I only hope that the fear of losing does not re-appear now we have arrived at the knock-out rounds.

Reiko wrote:Germany will prevail. 8)


:lol: Now that would be a World Cup Upset!
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Fenerit » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:51 am

TERRIER wrote:... calling for the head of Capello ...


"...calling for the head of Hair ..." (capello = hair). Sorry Terrier, I couldn't resist. :D
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Fenerit » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:13 am

TERRIER wrote:
t00fri wrote:Consistent well playing is of NO importance, really. In the past, the winning teams (including Germany) rarely did.


True, Italy usually prove this rule :mrgreen:



Sure! It's matter of soccer's philosophy; for Italy the most important player is the goalkeeper, not the delantero. One, two intervenings are decisive within the long run of a World Cup. England meet Germany because one goalkeeper's fault than two goals done.
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby Chuft-Captain » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:06 am

At this stage I'm thinking this may be Argentina's year, but anything can happen (as Group F showed).

( EDIT: I'm kinda hoping that Paraguay win. That would be something! :) )
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Re: The "World Cup Upsets" thread

Postby t00fri » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:23 am

TERRIER wrote:
Reiko wrote:Germany will prevail. 8)


:lol: Now that would be a World Cup Upset!


Why? Since the beginning of the World Cup (1930), Germany won it 3 times, last in 1990. Moreover it came second 4 times, last in 2002. That's not a bad record, is it?

Italy has even 4 wins last one in 2006, and 2 second places.
Brazil is the leader, with 5 wins and 2 second places. Argentina and Uruquay won twice each, with 2 second places for Argentina and 1 second place for Uruquay.

Well...England won the World Cup only once (back in 1966!) and never won a second place.

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