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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Tegmine » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:50 am

All this fuss, and Pluto still isn't considered a "proper" planet?

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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Hungry4info » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:50 pm

A planet must:

1) Orbit a star.
2) Have sufficient mass to achieve hydrostatic equilibrium.
3) Gravitationally dominate the neighbourhood around its orbit.

The number of moons is irrelevant. You may as well ask why the sun isn't considered a planet based on the criteria of number of orbiting bodies.
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby W0RLDBUILDER » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:57 pm

Guys, let's not start a flame war. We all know it's a planet anyway. :wink: Anyway, about the moon, I already have a mesh in the works. Of course it's fictional, we know next to nothing about P4's shape (or that of Nix or Hydra, for that matter).
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby john Van Vliet » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:50 pm

a for fun test
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a short vid 720p
http://youtu.be/oQSSr1anEf8


no flaming Pluto is not a planet
i never liked it as one even when i was a young kid in the 70's to 80's
wrong orbit and wrong tilt not even in the same plane as the rest of the solar system


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that makes a few different types including "asteroids"

the above was done with the LOLA/MOLA plugin
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Cham » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:07 am

John,

what about giving the model itself here, so we can try it ? (high res, please).

EDIT : According to your YouTube video, there's a nasty line visible on the model, and even a hole on a pole ?
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby ajtribick » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:07 pm

What bugged me about Pluto was that it became pretty clear that it was part of the Kuiper Belt, which going by historical precedent implies "not a planet". Orbital inclination was weird but didn't particularly bug me. These days of course we have the Upsilon Andromedae system with a mutual inclination of 30 degrees between the second and third gas giants, which kind of throws the inclination argument for planethood well out of the window...
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby john Van Vliet » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:48 pm

Cham
i could but it is only a testing / just having fun mesh
and i have two right now
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still learning my way around blender 2.58

i guess i could go back to 2.49 for a bit
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Tegmine » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:50 am

Don't get me wrong. I laugh at the humor I find in it. I'm ok with calling it a dwarf planet. I think it will be really neat to see what New Horizons reveals about Pluto and its moons.

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PS-like the work on the models!
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby ajtribick » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:07 am

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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby H2SO4 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:40 am

ajtribick wrote:...and another one!

NASA - Hubble Discovers a Fifth Moon Orbiting Pluto

Ha, you're quick. I came to post the same thing :)
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby john Van Vliet » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:28 pm

i was just about to post a link from nasa.gov
a few px. in a shot for now
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6667 ... 1232ay.jpg

but don't go looking for a spice bsp
the plu22.bsp is for
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Bodies: EARTH BARYCENTER (3)  EARTH (399)           HYDRA (903)
        PLUTO BARYCENTER (9)  CHARON (901)          904
        SUN (10)              NIX (902)             PLUTO (999)
        Start of Interval (ET)              End of Interval (ET)
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        1964 DEC 07 00:00:41.183            2099 DEC 29 00:01:07.183
 
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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Tegmine » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:53 am

Can anyone say "overcompensation?"

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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby symaski62 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:07 pm

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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Tegmine » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:36 am

This will be neat when New Horizons gets there...instead of 2 Kuiper Belt objects, we get to see 6. Not a full sampling of what such objects look like, but it's something.

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Re: new moon orbits Pluto

Postby Limax7 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:05 pm

So any orbit to P5 moon ?
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